Polish Radom P64 Review

Discussion in 'Collector's Corner' started by plouffedaddy, Jun 10, 2012.

  1. plouffedaddy

    plouffedaddy New Member

    The P64 is a DA/SA blowback pistol that appears to be (because it is) very similar to Walther's PPK. The designers of the pistol deny that it's a PPK clone and insisted it is an original design---sure...:D

    In my opinion, the fact that it's very similar to the PPK is a good thing in my opinion, the PPK is a quality pistol as is the P64. It's been 100% reliable since I've picked it up and for $189 it's tough to complain.

    The 9x18 Makarov round could have a post of its' own, and it's often debated whether one using the round should carry JHP rounds or FMJ to increase penetration. I'll leave that debate to another day but I chrono'd some common loads in the video. For what it's worth, I spoke with Kevin Underwood two weeks ago of http://www.underwoodammo.com and he told me that he was currently developing some 9x18 defensive loads. When they come out, they'll probably be my carry load for this handgun (pending performance testing of course) since he has a reputation of producing good affordable defensive ammo.

    Cost--$189 for a gun of this quality is tough to complain about
    100% reliability thus far.
    All steel construction, seems like it will be very durable
    Replacement parts, should you need them, are very inexpensive
    The single action trigger is excellent
    Fires an affordable round ($10/50 on most internet sites).
    Carries and conceals easily
    Gun appears to be in excellent shape for a surplus weapon

    Heavy (22oz) for a carry gun by modern standards
    Blowback design is inherently a dirty firing design
    Many shooters experience slide bite (I only noticed some abrasion after about 100 rounds, and I have large hands)
    Sights are miniscule, but usable
    The OEM hammer spring causes the worst DA pull I've ever experienced (easily replaceable for about $5)
    Some people claim the recoil is stout, but I think it's on par with most modern pocket/slim 9mm type guns.

    Here's a quick video with some shooting, disassembly/assembly, and chronograph tests.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cLe0Skgo ... list=UL%22]

    Chronograph Data:

    Hornady 95gr XTP: 990 fps, 207ft/lbs of energy
    Silver Bear 94gr HP: 1042 fps, 229ft/lbs of energy
    Brown Bear 94gr FMJ: 1075 fps, 241ft/lbs of energy
  2. gun.fm

    gun.fm Shutterbug

    Great write up! And always double pleasure with a photo. Thanks.

  3. okie67

    okie67 Member

    Nice review and pic.
  4. Auguste Capone

    Auguste Capone New Member

    Thanks for the review and nice pic.
  5. ryc3rz

    ryc3rz New Member

    Hi. I don't shoot myself yet( I live in Ireland now-you cannot get a gun permit in this country), but I'm from Poland and I heard a bit about this gun.
    Generally it has never been liked by it's military/police users. Everybody in Poland say that it has probably the worst trigger in the world.
    There is an interesting story about that trigger:
    When the gun was issued everybody complained about the trigger weight. Some soldiers organized a delegation and went to speak with the designer about it. They met him at the firing range. Obviously they weren't the first ones to complain to the guy about this issue so as soon as he heard what they want to talk about he grabbed a gun from one of the soldiers, fired some shots effortlessly and very annoyed and angry he said: "See? it's light as a feather. I have absolutely no problems with it, so stop whining and man-up!"
    The thing is he was bear of a man, with especially huge and strong hands. He just designed the trigger for himself!
  6. lessonfree

    lessonfree New Member

    P-64 is a great gun and you always can replace a couple springs and make it smooth. I used to have a two of them. One with thumb rest (questionable improvement). Regular Makarov ammo is kind of strong for p64, it was designed to use 70gr. ammo, so if you think your recoil is too much you can switch to less powerful ammo.